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Dan, forgive my ignorance but what is YT?
Love both shake shack and third window... But third window is far superior, as it should be, considering they are handcrafted, and use higher and ingredients.
Shake shack has crinkle cut fries, not waffle... And I think they're the best fast food fries around. But third window fries are great too.
Great photos of the Whale House Erik!
Dear posters, I am also in great disgust of the proposed development. It is great to air your thoughts here, but please send an email addressed to those who have an obligation to right the wrong that sluggish action caused.
Write to:
County Board of Supervisors [email protected]
Gregg Hart [email protected]
senator Monique Limón
[email protected]
Gov Newsom — go to State government URL to find an email addy or use the form available on the site
SB City Council
[email protected]
Mayor Rowse,
[email protected]
Thank you!
Thanks for the notice about the ABR meeting, I'm watching right now on the city of SB YouTube channel. Does everyone know that almost all of the city boards and commissions are live on YT?
What happens to my ten “prepaid” car washes, purchased in good faith
Are we counting Rusty's as a chain?
Great! Another chain coming in to our funk zone. Just what we all need????!!
J.
What whaaaaaaa??? There's milkshakes at Third?!?!?
There's two levels of subterranean parking across pretty much the entire development - it's right there on their website, if you scroll down to the PDF's, it's the last one. There will be more parking spaces in that area once finished than currently exist - 845 residential spots, and 105 retail spots.
COULD NOT AGREE MORE! I love how Nick Welsh is somehow imagining that there could have been a public hearing - what exactly would have happened at this hearing? A bunch of NIMBYS yelling at the city lawyers, telling them how they think the law should work? The only shame here is that it took folks so long to notice this loophole.
Why not get one of the milkshakes at Third? ;)
I can't imagine a more inappropriate location for a large apartment building than next door to the Mission. What's next, the Rose Garden? Pearl Chase would not approve!
Not sure about it being an actual promotion for the show as his wife Ashley posted on Instagram she did it for his birthday last year.
That said I’d like to see a latte Larry’s pop-up in town given all the other coffee shops we have.
The Latte Larry’s sign has been there for a while now. It felt like it appeared not long after he bought a home in - well after that season had aired. Seemed more like a cute wink to fans while presumably he genuinely adopted a section of highway to keep clean, than a promotion for the show.
Not familiar with TW but SS is by far the best, burger, milkshake combo on the planet. 5 guys is pretty close for burgers but their milkshakes don’t compare. Best SS on the planet was at Hong Kong although AZ was a close 2nd. I can’t wait for them to get here,
That Independent article isn’t depressing, it’s a description of what happens when city leaders either don’t care or are being willfully ignorant. Santa Barbara has been rotting at its core for a long time and I’m glad some entrepreneurial people spotted the opportunity to build.
This area prompted the acquisition of a stake in the Zone. The utility pole Art has ebbed and flowed but is always appreciated.
101 Garden was stated to be at an economic risk when money cost was 2% points lower than today. Not a huge fan but they got the tablecloth pulled out from under the plans.
131 E Mason- the full block proposal has just kept banging on the housing shortage to make a questionably thought out proposal acceptable. The parking plan was silly. As far as I know the lots are not merged save by ownership.
The “platform” at the stone yard when stripped of landscaping has the charm of a Fallujah style urban warfare military exercise facility. With this and the similar shopping refit near the bird lagoon… is there a market for this space? If State street was leased full up, OK.
My question of the two hotels in one corner development is two managers for so few units? Curious.
There will be change, may the cost of money rationalize the development.
You are 100 percent correct. It is our local leaders who completely dropped the ball with their failure to adopt a housing element in a timely fashion. The housing element issue arises every eight years. It’s not like a surprise. Builder’s Remedy is only available where local leaders fail to do what they are required to do by state law.
I hope the Mission project is doomed…..especially given out of control traffic congestion and fire escape on those narrow charming lanes. Not too long ago we also had a water problem….and will again. If our local government…complicit though it maybe… cannot stop this insanity….ask not for whom the bell tolls.
Personally I think the Macys replacement project is a huge improvement over what’s currently there. I’m not a fan of huge (usually empty) parking lots so filling that space with housing is a win. The parking for this development is mostly underground or hidden away so it’s not a barrier to people accessing from State St. It appears to be a development giving priority to people over cars, which I know is revolutionary in SoCal, but it’s gotta happen sometime!
Maybe some people will have the temerity to walk around this new neighborhood? There are many services within a short walk so getting in the car to do everything might not be necessary. As far as traffic on State Street is concerned, I’m a firm believer that one of the measures of a success for a neighborhood is NOT how quickly cars can drive through it.
The Shake Shack burger is much closer to the burger you get at Third Window - in fact Shake Shack really kick started this crispy/smashed burger craze across the country, and likely had some inspiration in the Third Window version. Having had both - I actually think Third Window's version is better, and I like that Third Window has traditional fries whereas Shake Shake has waffle cut fries. But, you can get a proper malted vanilla milkshake at Shake Shack, and that's my jam. In the ideal world, you'd pick up a shake from Shake Shack and then have the burger and fries at Third Window. I'm sure the Shake Shake location will be overwhelmingly successful though, and good on them.
Great visuals today, Eric.... you really captured the spirit of the FZ as well as a good synopsis of what's there and what's to come.
what makes their burgers different Sam? Never been to a Shake Shack- just had my first Five Guys, which I found better than I expected.....though Priedite still trumps anything I've tried
