And five from friends:
LAMEPLT
ELCARO (He works for ORACLE)
WTHDTM (What the heck does this mean)
OKURMAD
FLTRISK (Flight risk, on a motorcycle)
ChatGPT nailed it.
Does anyone know why they didn't buy three ADA compliant vehicles? Seems like a no brainer. And better serving an occasional group shouldn't override better [i.e. more frequent] service to the majority of users who are not part of a large group.
John please refrain from writing such a long comment. Just so you know I only read the first 2 sentences and got bored and stopped. Next time think of others before you write such a long comment.
I was born and raised in Santa Barbara. My family has been in here for about 125 years. How about you how long have you lived in Santa Barbara and how long have you been afraid of progress ??
R.
The state and local lawmakers responsible for this will face ZERO consequences because all of you ranting about this here will continue to vote for the same type of ineffective community organizers with zero real world experience, who only tout the regulations they pass rather than the results they provide.
Spearmint Rhino
OH yes BTW...this project was submitted during the time the City of SB had lost its permitting authority. This means the decision to approve this project or deny it is gone from the playbooks. No appeal, no other authority. It is basically a free project approved once the application is accepted. Right now the City keeps refusing the application over frivolous things. Like someone would say..no application shall be submitted in blue ink...etc The City o f SB only had 3 applications come in during that period. The County of SB had 18 come in. With the way the Housing laws are written, there is no way to prevent this project. You can slow it down and cause financial increases with CEQA, but aside from getting the owners to want to sell the property and having the money its locked in. Just how the law is written.
https://www.hcd.ca.gov/planning-and-community-development/accountability-and-enforcement
Sorry but you are wrong. State Lawmakers are not going to be able to help. If they had any power to intervene ( which they don't) then they would be obligated to step in on other Cities (which they wont) Its an idealistic viewpoint. We strongly suggest before you hype the community up you learn about the various Housing laws. Start with the 1969 HA, the RHNA. SB330 and the enforcement division of HCD codes and Enforcement. Once you have caught up, then you will see how limited it all is. Ignoring all that prevents focus on the only avenue afforded to the community. CEQA review. Holland and Night produce s list of Housing laws every year and what they do. We suggest starting with 2019 and read every year till 2025. After that you will understand what options are available and what options are just a waste of time. Best of luck.
Out of the 5, buying the property is the only choice, thats if they are willing to sell.
What happens now...the developer appeals to Court and will win because it is extremely clear the City has been stalling by requiring frivolous things. It will be an eye opener when the court comes down on them. All anyone needs do is look at the outcome from court case in Goleta, Shelby ranch. It was a builders remedy project and the City got slapped over its frivolous reasons.
Bottom line everyone needs to support the public process of ceqa review.
https://opr.ca.gov/ceqa/getting-started/?embedded_webview=true
There was no Chumash settlement on that side of the Mission. It was on the other side of the Mission. The nearest village on that side was up rocky nook park closer to foothill rd.
It is possible that random resources might be found on this property, temporary settlement around building walls during the 1700s is not uncommon. We are watching this project closely.
Hmmm lots of chatter on this site. Unfortunately not one will work.
Everyone must remember that this crazy housing project ar 505 E. LOS Olivos is not like any other before.
You cannot fight it, you are not supposed to. The City cannot stop it and are not supposed to. If the developer takes the City to court, they will loose hands down. The Housing Act trumps all local claims. If you read the reason the ‘application ‘ is being denied you will see its for frivolous reasons. Recent Housing Court cases, judges have pointed this out. Every local government is to do what it can to make the process go as smooth as possible. So far the City of SB has been abusing its process. This is the only time the City can have any say during the application period. Once accepted the clock starts ticking and reviews begin, architecture, planning, Ceqa, city council, all to be done in 180days. Basically each will only get 1 meeting before its final.
If a development project meets development standards then the City and City council cannot do anything to stop it. So anyone who is trying to apply public pressure is wasting time and effort, that includes state officials. Dont waste valuable time. The biggest contribution the public can do is take part of the CEQA review process. Make viable arguments not just say No, it looks dumb. Take the time needed to learn CEQA
https://opr.ca.gov/ceqa/getting-started/?embedded_webview=true
Be useful and not useless.
A good CEQA Comment can force more studies to be done, this creates a financial impact, best thing we all can do it make them pay for it good.
Sorry...even if a burial is found it will not stop the project. The law is very clear. Burials are the most significant of possible impacts. But they dont stop projects they only slow them down. We are focused on the possibility of cultural resources being discovered.
that is akin to charging road fees for cars using the roads. Of course a launch is loud....for 12 seconds?
FYI - Andy C does not have the exclusive rights to the name Andy...
Please, don’t come to this city with good ideas…
They will hire consultants for a ton of money and dismiss the idea and do something else
They said they are clustered in Oder to keep bigger groups of people together. They have an electronic feedback survey in the carts if you want to give feedback about frequency, route, etc
If the city got their shit together and permitted more housing development in the downtown corridor we wouldn’t have to worry about this Mission development. Honestly, 270 new housing units is a great idea… on State Street. Now you have over 500 new regular patrons for retail and dining downtown. And guess what? People who live close by won’t need to drive State either. Win-win-win.
Roy, I assume you are new to Santa Barbara. Having moved there from So. Cal. in 1981 as a financially struggling, technical school graduate it was challenging. However, the beauty and uniqueness of the area was worth every extra penny. I learned about the many committee's that existed to keep Santa Barbara beautiful and not be destroyed by unethical, greedy builders from the South. That generation of protectors is now pretty much gone, sadly. After 44 years I am selling my home this month because I am so very saddened about what has happened to our community and its thoughtless, unattractive, multi-story dwellings that have popped up everywhere. What happened to the water crisis/building moratoriums? I lived 3 blocks from the Mission and would walk up to the Rose Garden/Mission property several times a week. The thought of being able to see a 270 unit apartment building in the vista behind the Queen of Missions is nauseating and unforgivable.
Be careful what you decide to build in the name of "progress"which is defined by a forward or onward movement toward a destination.
When the project first came to light, I went and looked at the submitted elevations, and I recall it descending down the hillside—so it wasn't nearly as bad as this. But the plans were preliminary, and much may have changed since then. (Noozhawk states that "the project is proposed to be 90 feet high," but it's not clear what the starting point is.)
Looks strangely like the monstrosity in the Valley... Seems as though the Chumash are expanding their Santa Ynez reservation into the heart of SB...
Different Andy.
Perfectly said!
Agree Dan. With that said, our City Council and Mayor should be pushing in Sacramento as well. It simply can’t be built there nor anywhere in town. . Also, who are all the people who will be living in the thousands of residences being built? Just because there will be more doesn’t mean the prices will go down anywhere. One problem we have is out-of-towners rent places and live here very little as well as contribute nothing.
Are there noise disturbance and environmental fees imposed for rocket launches at Vandenberg? There should be. SB/Goleta should benefit as this is a disturbance for all.
