Brava Jennifer. I would have added Did you walk up the narrow stairs in the Monastary, turn a corner and be struck dumb by the sheer glory of FRA Angelico’s The Annunciation in situ? If you don’t know, you don’t know.
— Barbara cronin on
Go to Florence anytime but holidays and Summer. Read up so you know what you'll encounter. Be prepared for long lines and waits; you're visiting a magical city that is on 99% of travelers' bucket lists. Get off the beaten path for restaurants filled with locals. There's a big Florence world there; you just have to have some flexibility to find your niche. Oh, and thanks for the really great photos! Ciao!
— Chad Johnson 85 on
You did not capture the magic of Florence. I’m sorry you did not have that experience.
— Barbara cronin on
The area is inherently walkable. We have multiple existing paseos which already create vehicle free corridors, and if anything feel safer than the "pedestrian promenade" which is little more than a highway for e-bikes. We don't need to address "walkability" or "pedestrian friendliness" first - we need to just build the damn housing. This is putting the cart so far ahead of the horse, which is why it's done nothing to "fix" State Street in the five years it's already been in place. Those touting the slightly higher leased figures in recent years as an argument for the promenade should be honest about the caliber of businesses on State versus in the past.
Right? I actually felt safe crossing the street when cars were on State. They seemed more likely to stop at lights than e-bikes.
How was State St. not pedestrian friendly before cars were removed? Except during parades, I never saw the sidewalks so full of people that they weren't pedestrian friendly.
I couldn't disagree more about "making that stretch one-way for cars" on State Street, which would be the ultimate half-measure (see: 1200 block, which should go back to fully closed except maybe for drop-offs for Granada events). We optimize for car traffic all over the city - let's embrace having a bike- and pedestrian-friendly downtown. The issue isn't lack of car traffic; it's perverse incentives for commercial leases, the opportunity to build more dense housing (vs. hotels) in the area, and yes, the temporary state of some of the implementations. But we need to take the long view here - it's about creating a vibrant, walkable environment optimized for residents with more apartments, condos, markets, gathering spaces, and community events.
The only way to see old Florence is to wait in long lines and be amongst throngs of people like yourself. And in summer you will be in sweltering heat and you will breathe the fumes of mopeds scurrying down the narrow streets, which become canyons which trap the smoke. The only way you can experience and enjoy Modern Florence is to find out where the locals eat and go there. You will find familles and friends - all Italian of course. No one will be speaking English, but the food will be incredible. Mostly, Florence is a tourist trap. I'd go for the art, history and the sense of beauty if you can get away from the crowds. And the few great restaurants if I could get in. The smaller towns in Italy is where you can find friendliness, hospitality and real people. BTW, I think if Erik did not offer critiques or honesty, but only fluff, there would be no point to his articles. Just go through any old travel book like Lonely Planet or Rick Steves. They will make any destination look like 'The Best' thing that you could ever visit. I think it's better to know what you are getting yourself into prior to going: The good, bad and all that lies between. Or perhaps travel should be compared to going to a movie. As my daughter always says, don't think it will be great, don't believe the hype, lower your expectations and you'll have a good time. Just sayin'.
Could not agree more about State St. Fish, or cut bait. I favored the idea of a pedestrian promenade years before it was done. There were several town halls devoted to concepts like this well before COVID. Seeing it in practice, I no longer feel that way. We are wasting money and time trialling corny projects that are all done in half-assed, cheap feeling ways. How could one even measure the "success" of a project like the one stated? Such a joke. Among the solutions for downtown include adding more market rate housing, and returning public places to the actual public, not the select few homeless who have unfortunately spoiled public resources for the many. Everything else being done on State St. feels like moving deck chairs around on the Titanic.
I am excited that they’re trialing and testing different things so we know what works when they finally build the master plan! Also, there is already a 2-way bike path down the middle. Not sure what bringing back a car lane would fix, you can just take chapala and can’t park on state anyway.
Wow. What a complainer! It would have been better if you had eaten better? What's better than Florentine food? I lived in Florence for a year + while I admit, the crowds are a bit overwhelming and they do love their dogs, hint hint, it's such a fabulous place that that it has earned a permanent spot in my heart. Did you go to a chamber orchestra in one of the ancestral Palazzi? Did you go to the Palazzo Davanzati? How about the Casa Buonaroti? I stayed in a convent the last time I visited and had a beautiful, quiet and peaceful visit where I could hear the bells ringing for Mass. You sound like a miserable person, however your photos are great!
— Jennifer on
And you seem like a real peach.
— Erik Torkells on
Tamara there is no need to announce that you are cooking your healthy meals sister! Just keep on doing what’s right for you and there is no need to let everyone know. We don’t care. R.
Tamara there is no need to announce that you are cooking your pie healthy meals sister! Just keep on doing what’s right for you and there is no need to let everyone know. We don’t care. R.
Thank-you for this response to an oddly negative review written by one who is clearly undeserving if the ‘gift’ before her. The birthplace of the Renaissance, the Art that is ever-present and breathtakingly beautiful, the Medici marvel. My heart sank when I read the description of Michelangelo’s ‘David’.
First off I’d like to compliment you on your photography. You have some great shots! My girlfriend and I have been to Florence three times, and I’m so excited to take my adult children there in August. As you may guess by what I’ve written so far our experience is a bit different than yours. In fact, it is our desire to move there upon retirement. I get what you’re saying about the crowds, but there’s a reason for that. There are certain things you did not mention that I’m assuming you did not do that I highly recommend if you go back. First, the city is super walkable. Stay in less touristy areas like Oltrarno or the east side of city center. Second, speaking of Oltrarno, eat in Oltrarno. That’s where the locals eat. They have amazing trattorias there. Try Trattoria Giovanni. They have the best Pappardelle al Cinghiale! It’s the first and only time I’ve wept upon trying a dish for the first time. Third, climb to the top of Brunelleschi’s Dome. It is an amazing architectural feat. Plus the view from the top terrace is beautiful! Third, go to the Ufizzi Museum. It is one of the best museums in the world! Fourth, aperitivo at a rooftop bar. Fifth, lunch at Mercato Centrale. Sixth, Great idea to hit Piazzale Michelangelo, but did you stay for the sunset? One of the best sunsets you’ll ever see. Bonus, get a pizza at Pizzeria Antico Porta. It is delicious! I hope you go back to Florence. It is such an amazing city. Cheers!
— Ken Martin on
God you seem absolutely wretched. I’m so glad everyone in Firenze treated you poorly and I hope you don’t come back. What did you expect? People like you with dumb travel blogs ruin places for everyone else…so…maybe go your own way and stop with this pedantic journaling.
Perhaps we should just call it NoGo then
Beautiful photography. Mine pale in comparison.
Mission City looks yum and I like their branding.
I agree with you William! And I've been living in Florence for a year now.
— W P Bott on
Agree 100%! I thought the review exhibited ignorance.
— Charles Taylor on
I'm glad you have had a better experience there than I did, but I take some umbrage at the insinuation that we were treated badly at Zeb for any reason other than he's a total jerk, and online reviews bear that out: https://www.yelp.com/biz/zeb-firenze?rr=2#reviews. Truly, he was rude to us from the moment we stepped inside.
— Erik Torkells on
I have been to Florence about 5 times, most recently this January and stayed 7 nights. I couldn’t disagree more with a number of points here. I had zero issues with air quality. You were standing in the birthplace of the Renaissance and you complain about a rude restaurant employee? Usually you get what you give. I have never had any issues with rudeness and I have been there far more than you. I would encourage people to bin this review and enjoy the Medici hometown and marvel in the greatness that Firenze.
— William Jones on