Sorry...even if a burial is found it will not stop the project. The law is very clear. Burials are the most significant of possible impacts. But they dont stop projects they only slow them down. We are focused on the possibility of cultural resources being discovered.
that is akin to charging road fees for cars using the roads. Of course a launch is loud....for 12 seconds?
FYI - Andy C does not have the exclusive rights to the name Andy...
Please, don’t come to this city with good ideas…
They will hire consultants for a ton of money and dismiss the idea and do something else
They said they are clustered in Oder to keep bigger groups of people together. They have an electronic feedback survey in the carts if you want to give feedback about frequency, route, etc
If the city got their shit together and permitted more housing development in the downtown corridor we wouldn’t have to worry about this Mission development. Honestly, 270 new housing units is a great idea… on State Street. Now you have over 500 new regular patrons for retail and dining downtown. And guess what? People who live close by won’t need to drive State either. Win-win-win.
Roy, I assume you are new to Santa Barbara. Having moved there from So. Cal. in 1981 as a financially struggling, technical school graduate it was challenging. However, the beauty and uniqueness of the area was worth every extra penny. I learned about the many committee's that existed to keep Santa Barbara beautiful and not be destroyed by unethical, greedy builders from the South. That generation of protectors is now pretty much gone, sadly. After 44 years I am selling my home this month because I am so very saddened about what has happened to our community and its thoughtless, unattractive, multi-story dwellings that have popped up everywhere. What happened to the water crisis/building moratoriums? I lived 3 blocks from the Mission and would walk up to the Rose Garden/Mission property several times a week. The thought of being able to see a 270 unit apartment building in the vista behind the Queen of Missions is nauseating and unforgivable.
Be careful what you decide to build in the name of "progress"which is defined by a forward or onward movement toward a destination.
When the project first came to light, I went and looked at the submitted elevations, and I recall it descending down the hillside—so it wasn't nearly as bad as this. But the plans were preliminary, and much may have changed since then. (Noozhawk states that "the project is proposed to be 90 feet high," but it's not clear what the starting point is.)
Looks strangely like the monstrosity in the Valley... Seems as though the Chumash are expanding their Santa Ynez reservation into the heart of SB...
Different Andy.
Perfectly said!
Agree Dan. With that said, our City Council and Mayor should be pushing in Sacramento as well. It simply can’t be built there nor anywhere in town. . Also, who are all the people who will be living in the thousands of residences being built? Just because there will be more doesn’t mean the prices will go down anywhere. One problem we have is out-of-towners rent places and live here very little as well as contribute nothing.
Are there noise disturbance and environmental fees imposed for rocket launches at Vandenberg? There should be. SB/Goleta should benefit as this is a disturbance for all.
8 stories , 270 units and NO visuals. VERY SCARY!
Re 505 E Los Olivos: My grandfather had a framed photo from Windsor Soule, the architect firm that made an alteration on Caroline Hazard’s “Mission Hill” property (603 mission Canyon Rd was called, and which is now 505 E Los Olivos). This was all unbeknownst to me this week, when I started researching who I could deliver this bit of historical memorabilia- framed photo to.
Here’s what I found out:
-The current structures of 505 E Los Olivos are on the SB city historical resource inventory list. “ Several resources on site as part of the important Hazard estate:sandstone walls, Mission Hill house, a Victorian house constructed in 1885, St. Mary's Retreat House AKA Dial Residence, a Tutor house constructed in 1920. at 505 E Los Olivos St. APN 025-150-009”
Don’t you think there would have to be a review at this historical department? Or is that overridden in the builder’s remedy as well?
-This used to be the Unitarian Universalist Sanctuary and on their website it says that this was a Chumash settlement, so there probably is something still to be addressed in that respect.
-In an Independent article, it seemed to say that the original proposed structure would be within 25 ft of Mission Creek. So it had to be moved over in a subsequent update. But aren’t the creek setbacks typically 50 ft back? This may be an issue that remains to be addressed?
Here is a link to a hypothetical rendering: https://ibb.co/wZMBTCDQ.
I started reading for the real estate ( I'm trying to get back home) but there's never anything in my price range (1.5).
Now I read just for the author's sharp wit. I love it.
I saw told it was due to ADA (only 1 of the carts is accessible). Connecting them would make sense, the frequency isn’t great with them clustered.
you clearly don't understand eminent domain laws
Dahl... the writer to anchor nightmares of a third grader, James and the Giant Peach...
I secretly donated that birthday gift to the local library. Then walked to the adult section and checked out an Ian Fleming Bond novel.
Good report.
Oh god, please don’t tell me that the “Andy” behind that vision4santabarbara is failed right-wing candidate, Andy Caldwell.
Yes it is a monstrosity behind the mission, but Santa Barbara’s very own “election fraud” conspirator has a vision no one wants. I hope this is the last time we see his nonsense on Siteline so it doesn’t be come “Rightline”.
The city is 100% responsible for the State/Builders Remedy fiasco we are in now. I'm not sure what they do on a daily basis besides hiring people to help them figure out what to do!
Does anyone know why the three golf carts on State St. are running as a group [as observed yesterday, 5/31]? Are the drivers still in training mode? If that is to continue, couldn't the three carts be connected, like a train, to lower operating costs?
100% spot on. It’s infuriating
Has anyone considered having the city purchase the property by eminent domain and using it for low-rise public housing, maybe including some public parkland? It seems the recent purchase by the developer would assist in determining "fair market value" by the court, not an outlandish figure that the developer might ask of a philanthropist.















